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Drake Draconis Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.11.25 17:00:00 - [1] Blizzard called... they want there missing WOW playerbase back. MORON!
Drake Draconis Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.11.25 17:26:00 - [2] Edited by: Drake Draconis on 25/11/2008 17:30:01 @ OP
Drake Draconis Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.11.25 17:26:00 - [3] Edited by: Drake Draconis on 25/11/2008 17:29:37 Originally by: InfamousOne LOL Drake, unfortuneately I have to agree with the nay sayers, I think this "grinding" idea would ruin EVE. o7
Drake Draconis Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.11.25 18:01:00 - [4] I have to concur..... same thing here... A: When I log on... the teamwork of working with my "incognito" corp (soon to be restarted) is thrilling.... coordinating.. working hard to finish tough missions...etc..etc... when you play solo casually... you won't last long in this game unless your motivation is driven hard by persistence. B: Posting in assembly hall and just shotgunning ideas really bugs me... and I'm starting to troll a bit too much these days but honestly... its so obvious you didn't even bother to research. So sorry if you took offense to that.... but at least bother to clean up your foul mouth and put more effort into your ideas. Even I try to come up with ideas... but most of them I delete myself because I realize that there's consequences down the line that would make the game worse off than it is. Try tackling the War-dec problem... and you'll catch on realll quick like.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.11.26 06:28:00 - [5] /facepalm
Drake Draconis Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.11.26 17:02:00 - [6] You just lost every bit of respect you had in this channel... I think its time you moved on and left... before you turn it into crime and punishment spam thread.... and get yourself banned from the boards.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.12.04 18:44:00 - [7] One of the things I love about EVE is the fact in order to get anywhere... you have to work your ass off. Oh sure you'll have phantom pilots... but so what... they have to earn there ISK... that or beg for it... just to get anything worthwhile. Skills can be trained up by anyone.... but you have to buy that equipment. This is far better than say getting on a FPS game and getting pwn3d by some 10 year old whose only played for a few days... EVE is only limited by the time you put into it.... not by chance. If we start allowing people to earn SP through "playing the game"... the whole damn landscape changes... now your playing WOW.... and lot of people will hate it.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.12.10 17:10:00 - [8] Edited by: Drake Draconis on 10/12/2008 17:11:39 Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Supporting the discussion on this topic, I think the intention is good but the solution needs work. I've been thinking about this problem (I agree that it is a problem), but I haven't been able to come up with a solid solution yet either. We don't want grind and we don't want unemployed/basement kids getting advantages over everyone else. On the other hand it would be nice to see progression through play and, most importantly, skill. I like the get-skill-while-you-play systems (mining gives mining skill), but somehow the system should be dynamic enough not to be bottable. And if the skills are gained as prize of some competetive event, then the people with most skill already will likely win and get even more skill. Just writing down what I'm thinking. I'd love to get around the table with some of CCPs gamedesigners and talk about this. /facepalm
Drake Draconis Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.12.12 17:23:00 - [9] Originally by: Sader Rykane I agree with the OP that there needs to be a sort of SP gain / action system. I don't know how it would be implemented, and I cannot be bothered to give examples of one. However, I do not enjoy sitting around for months at a time waiting for base skills so that I can be semi-proficient in more than just buzzing around in a frigate scrambling people. Did I play WoW? Yes. One of eight MMO's I've played, In thas particular MMO I had 8 max level characters. I'm a power leveler and I admit that I would power level the ** out of myself given the oppurtunity in Eve Online. I don't understand why you people feel like you're being "punished" just because given the oppurtunity I would move more quickly in the game instead of being stuck at your turtle pace. I challange you all to give me one VALID reason, for why this shouldn't be implemented in some way or form? You say that it would encourage power leveling; so what? How many people ghosted characters for years just to sell them in the future? It would create an unfair advantage to people who played? What's wrong with that? You're saying its wrong for people who PLAY to be rewarded for actually PLAYING? Why is the guy with 2 jobs who logs in 1 time a week entitled to be just as good as the guy who bleeds his heart and soul in to the game every day? Because the other guy was "lucky" enough to find the game first? How is that anymore fair? CCP if you have any intention of expanding this game and your playerbase you need to learn to make your game more accesible. I don't care about quality vs quantity, I just want to see over a million people playing Eve-O. Because this is not WOW. Stop being a MMOTARD and accept the fact that EVE-Online will remain unique for that very reason. If you don't have time to play the game... then you shouldn't be playing it in the first place. I have a full time job... I pay my bills...just like any other hard working individual. The only reason I play this game is because its not like other MMO[RPG]s where I won't get overhsaodwed by some punkass idiot who's played only a week and does things that other players spent weeks if not months of hard earned time and work getting to. Everyone has an equal chance of acheiving the ability to use/employ the hundreds of fun little things you can in this game.... each advanced aspect takes time. Not effort. Anyone can sit on there ass for an few hours and level up a character. Few have brains enough...let alone the Maturity** to wait.... and be patient. Patience is everything in this game.... and that's why I will gladly spend more money on this game to keep it that way. Don't like it? GTFO and GB2WOW. Personally I love the fact that I have to wait an entire month just to use something very high tech. Granted... maybe the timers could be shortened just a tad.... but then again.... it would devalue the full worth of said thing. Personally this entire proposal says one thing.... you lack patience... you have no maturity in such a thing... and your tired of waiting to level up your uber chacter. Tough.... adapt or quit....
Drake Draconis Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.12.12 18:54:00 - [10] Edited by: Drake Draconis on 12/12/2008 18:54:06 Quote: I love how everyone's argument falls into insults someone proclaiming yourself to be more "mature" just because you apparently can wait and I can't. I never said I could not wait, infact if the skill system were to stay the same I could care less. However, waiting is NOT fun, and no amount of BS that you spew at me can make me believe that you actually think that waiting is FUN. Waiting is inherently not fun, for you waiting is conveniant because you do not have free time. The problem isn't that I do not have time to play the game, the problem is I do have time to play the game. Yet other then mining / running l3's for isk to buy items I can't even use ( I have a Abaddon sitting in my hanger that I won't even attempt to fly until the end of January). Sorry, waiting in this game isn't entertaining and it isn't fun. I'll wait of course, as I said before I've got every intention of playing this game for the next year or two. However, I will not be against a more active SP gain system on top of the system we currently have. Thank you for proving my point as far as maturity goes. /thumbs up "Good things come to those who wait"
Drake Draconis Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.12.12 19:48:00 - [11] Originally by: Maximum KILLDEATHRATIO Drake you aren't mature and the fact that you even bring it up proves it. I thought this thread was over and you weren't gonna post anymore? Wrong thread... try reading.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.12.12 19:49:00 - [12] Originally by: Sader Rykane Edited by: Sader Rykane on 12/12/2008 19:16:34 Originally by: Drake Draconis Thank you for proving my point as far as maturity goes. /thumbs up "Good things come to those who wait" And what of hard work, persistence and perserverance? These aren't traits that should be bear results? Being able to wait for months, weeks, and years at a time shouldn't be the only way to "reward" players. Largest time I've had to wait was no more than a month. Anything more than that.... your exaggerating and too lazy to switch your skills. I do know that there's a great deal of discussion over a skill queue. I dont know of a skill that takes a year... maybe doomsday weapon operation level 5? : O )
Drake Draconis Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.12.12 20:33:00 - [13] You really are a one of a kind.... I'll give you that much.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.12.12 21:11:00 - [14] Edited by: Drake Draconis on 12/12/2008 21:15:38 Why should I answer a question about something YOU said yourself. You said years.... I took it at face value.

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